Glock Vs. Lone Wolf Barrel




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asianredneck625: Very helpful 

BallisticianX: I can explain the technical reasons why if you reload you want to replace your factory barrel, it is not just because the polygonal rifling with the whole "can't use cast or plated bullets in a Glock barrel" It has a lot to do with the case condition: All Glock barrels are designed with a protruding feed ramp to aid in reliable feeding. This design offers less case support than other manufacturers models. The larger chamber dimensions of the Glock is also for reliability in feeding. The base/ web area bulge issue is a direct result of the lack of chamber support. It is more common to the .40 than the 9mm. The .45 is the least as the standard operating pressure of the .45 ACP is much lower than the two latter thus less expansion potential. The bulge is a serious factor for reliability when the cases are reloaded as standard sizer dies cannot contact the case low enough to remove it and creates a bump stop to possibly stop the round short of fully chambering in a fully supported barrel such as Lone Wolf or KKM. It also posses a weak point for rupture when fired as a reload in an unsupported barrel, the condition to cause the "Glock caboom". Redding makes a sizing die specifically designed to remove the "bulge". I believe it's called the GRX die. It is designed to be used as a stand alone sizing operation on a single stage press. The case is actually pushed completely through the die from bottom to top to ensure full surface area sizing. You need to do it to safely and efficiently reload Glock .40 brass for use in any .40 chambered weapon. If your a reloader and want longer and safer case life it is a must to have a supported chamber and a touch tighter chamber. Simply rounds fired through a supported and tighter chamber expand less and wont bulge thus less material to displace when resizing them back to SAAMI dimensions., and no bulge hindering safety or reliability. All brass material will have a phenomenon called work hardening occur when constantly pressed or expanded under force. How quick or hard depends on frequency of the force applied and how much per instance. So the less it is moved per instance the slower the process takes to become a problem. Once a case is work hardened it loses ductility and increases density and is less likely to flex but rather crack. Now you increse rupture risks and another condition called spring back. This is when its to hard to be forced to a dimension and stay there but rather will expand back somewhat from the desired dimension applied to it from a loading die. This makes for oversized cases to increase feeding problems and less than optimal bullet tension for erratic pressures. All brass eventually should be retired but over expanded cases will have to be retired a lot sooner....not very economical.

John Doe: I just sent my new LWD barrel back. It shot 5-6 inches too high. NOT GOOD.

Robert Watson: Few gun manufacturers were prepared for the IPSC phenomenon. Individual shooters routinely fired more ammo through any given firearm than some small police departments. Glock was no exception. They were developed as military sidearms and would never see the amounts of ammo a dedicated shooter would expend. The bulging issue would not be a factor for a military weapon since the empty cases would not be reloaded. 

Dixie Normus: Is this only for .40 s&w barrels or do Glock barrels do this in 9mm,10mm, .45 as well?

theytookmyfuckiname: is this a gen 1 because i was told they fixed this problem after gen 1 glocks

James Sorrentino: From a logical point of view, I tend to agree with you. However, I have seen certain factory loads (Personal Defense) that won't chamber in the Lone Wolf barrel. You want reliability and chambering of any ammo - Glock barrel. Sticking to one type of ammo - Wolf barrel may be advantageous. The Glock is not dangerous. It's the most widely used and most often fired pistol in the world.

usabirddog: thanks dude for the vid

Lee Greger: Actually, .006 is huge. I was a machinist and we worked with +- .003. Even what we did would be considered lose. Great video.

Erick Trisha: Thank you for your input. You managed to answer a few questions that have been bugging me.

Aaron mann: Nice video. have recently just acquired a Gen 4 G35 .40 cal and I love it. Used to be a 9mm fan and still am for cheaper cost. How much do you actually save reloading your own ammo vs buying factory? I want to get into loading my own but I want to see if it will be cost effective before I buy all that equipment. I can go to my local sports shop and get a box of 100 165g target loads for $35 or I can order bulk on line for fairly cheap. I was afraid of KB at first so I ordered a LW threaded .40 barrel for it so I can be "safer" and use a suppressor. I have shot about 50 reloads and about 500 rounds out of my stock barrel and no problems. Glock rocks. Everyone has a 9mm and can shoot good fast groups but I just love the .40.

lazerusmfh: I have no problems reloading 40 S&W and firing in my glock, and SIG. Both cycle fired brass from the glock no problem, and haven't had problems with cracked casings. YMMV !

amaya1000rr: @surfboardhacker - Thanks.

DON C.: I would & did spend the 109.95 from LWD so i could reload.Never had a problem.Case weaking if you reload it will pop over time then you have a glock kaboom.Good video

Bon Jovi: Guys... Your cartridge doesn't headspace the way you're thinking it does, nor does that barrel support that case in the depth it appears when you do this test. Put that casing in your magazine, put it in the gun, then rack the slide and chamber it that way. Look at what's keeping that casing still; it's the casing stuck against the bolt face because the extractor's holding it there. Now look at the breech block of your barrel. See the surfaces that are holding it away from your slide?

Rick Odato: Thanks for a very informative video. It clears up a lot of questions that I had.

skiboyscuba: Thank u

amaya1000rr: I've probably reloaded my .40 cases 4 to 5 times now and haven't had any problems. I keep my loads on the lighter side for range use. I use new star line cases for anything hot, but since I also reload for 10mm I never try to push the .40 too hard. Honestly I think the infamous .40 kaboom has been blown way out of porportion. If you stay within published data and are careful about what your doing, you'll be ok. I still like the added safety of an aftermarket barrel, just for peace of mind.

lancerooke: Here's why I bought a lone wolf barrel. I bought a Glock 19C, but I'm not interested in the compensated barrel for conceal carry. Don't wanna be blinded if I have to shoot at night. So no big deal, right? Just buy an uncompensated lone wolf barrel. Great product IMO. My only complaint is the stupid cartoony image on it. I disagree with you on the reliability of the lone wolf barrel. I think it's just as reliable as the stock Glock barrel. Do you have any stats to compare the two?

georgia bowhunter: Nice video. Well organized and informational. Keep it up. I use the same 40-9 barrel in my G23 and G27. I also have the Lone Wolf .357 SIG barrel.

excelerater: you can have wolf make your WOLF barrel machined for reloads,they will add a small taper so its not so tight,,,I have since sold my wolf barrel and only use glock barrels in my glock...but I have seen and heard wolf doing this process for reloaders such as myself.......

wilmerpetcock: Great video man. Answered alot of questions. I just got into reloading .308's and have yet to load any .40's. Already have the dies, just not started yet. Is it considerably cheaper to reload the .40's as opposed to buying factory ammo? Also, as with my .308, will reloading .40's help with accuracy? Factory .308's hold about 1.5 inch groups, my handloads just make the hole bigger. I've run more than 8000 rounds through my G22, so I'm already pretty accurate. (-10" group @ 100yds) Love my Glock

David Louis: you dont carry a round in the chamber???? ehhhhh...why carry?

Fergesslich: Still better than no gun.

amaya1000rr: @wilmerpetrooster - I'm glad you liked it. I've been able to save around 40% on average in reloading .40s&w as compared to buying factory ammo for range use. Problem is I shoot twice as much now. If you decide to handload for self defense (hollow point) rounds then you can save considerably more as compared to premium factory ammo. IMO you may not see much improvement in accuracy by meticulously hand loading ammo like a .308 rifle. Most pistols just aren't as accurate to make it worth wild.

m parch: great video. gonna guess they do that for low tolerances. reliability the cartridge will make it in the chamber. not built with the intent for reloading at the range. great video. thanks dude!

mguinthe: Very informative. I don't reload, but I watched some videos that confirmed my experience that Double-Tap 10mm flat nosed bullets can tumble in a standard Glock barrel. The Lone Wolf barrel has much tighter tolerances, which makes a 10mm bullet fly truer than a standard Glock 20 barrel. Exactly what I needed to confirm. Thx.

amaya1000rr: Thanks for watching.

jris211: Contrary to popular belief, you can fire lead rounds through your stock glock barrel. That is a very common internet myth

InlandEmpireDudes: Just the video I was looking for! Informative and awesome! Is the glock factory barrel in this video the newer "more supported chamber" barrel glock release post 2010ish (signified by a dot within the pentagon marking)?

Ralph X: OMG! I've been reloading 40 S&W for the Glock 27 since it was introduced in 1991. That's 22 YEAR - so I know what I ma talking about here! I NEVER had a KABOOM in thousands of rounds! I use the same brass 4 to 5 times and discard it after 5 times. This video it pure BULL! There is nothing to worry about! Just don't load to excessive pressure and you will be fine. The KaBOOMS happen when reloader try to get creative.

flysubcompact: Thanks.

theroyalgrapefruit: very informative video, should have more views!

Chris Crawford: Good video

TheFireArmGuy: Great comparison and explanation of these barrels

amaya1000rr: @DunrominFarms - I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for watching.

amaya1000rr: They all buldge to some degree. 45acp opperates at about 20,000 psi where .40 s&w opperates at around 35,000 psi. This stresses the brass more creating a larger buldge which work hardens & weakens the brass when resizing. The .40 s&w really pushes the limits & that's what makes people nervous about reloading for it.

amaya1000rr: @donthebodyguard - yea, it's definately worth it for the added peace of mind.

tttdub: It's because of the rifling, not dimensions.

001SteveK1: Good info, thanks!

Tony Briggs: nice job...

jris211: Don't panic about it. The lone wolf barrels are match grade. In other words their chambers are way more tighter than most guns, not just glocks. Go ahead and reload them. The resizing die will do fine on the glock fired brass. You're gonna find out that all this "unsupported chamber" nonsense is just that. Nonsense.

surfboardhacker: This was an excellent review! Subbed

amaya1000rr: Not sure how the rifling would make a difference since the case sits within the chamber and does not touch the rifling. Maybe there's something I'm missing, please explain your theory.

Red-Neck AznDrummer: I have a Glock 22 Gen 4 and The rifling didn't look like it had the same barrel as you are showing as in rifling. I have copper plated lead at .401 dia 165gr, should I still buy the lone wolf??? Thanks

flysubcompact: I noticed that this video was made in Jan 2012. How is it working out since you made the video? I'm in the same boat. I just started reloading (9mm) and had concerns after looking at my bulged .40sw cases. I would like to reload the .40's for range use, too, eventually.

tjdinfl: Nice video. You covered all issues with zero inaccuracies. Nice job. You did, however, neglect to mention that you can also put an aftermarket .357sig barrel on your 23 or 27 (I'm sure you know that). The .40 caliber Glock is very versatile.

MrBlackwater1980: Sorry I just read my last comment and I kinda sounded like a prick. Was not my intention. Not trying to tell you what to do. Just kinda putting my own thoughts out there.

amaya1000rr: I'm not sure if other manufacters have the same issue as Glocks. I know the brass from an M&P 40c & a Sig P239 that my buddy gives me is not buldged as badly as that which comes from my Glock 23. You'll have to determine if the bulding is acceptable in those other firearms, do the research, and make a informed decision that your comfortable with. That's all part of the fun in reloading.

amaya1000rr: @InlandEmpireDudes - Yea, I purchased this Glock 23 in 2011. It does have the pentagon & dot marking. I didn't know that Glock had made changes to the barrels. Maybe that's why I never had issues shooting reloads through it. Still, I like the added peace of mind when using the LW barrel for my reloads.
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Glock Vs. Lone Wolf Barrel 4.8 out of 5

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